in this last election the photo i.d. law which as you mentioned is the one of the toughest in the country worked well. 2.2 million cast ballots. of those only 838 forgot to bring a photo i.d. to the polls. that et cetera fewer than 1 in 1,000 voters. they were giive provisional ballots. they came n the vote of election and make their vote out. to date we are not finding anyone who actually didn't have a photo i.d. the bottom line is it's a common sense easy way to prevent some forms of voter fraud and it is a fact that exists. voter fraud is very real in the america. >> you said 235 claims of voter fraud who is making this allegations. >> he'll 235 verified cases been reported between 1997 and 2010. >> and you so -- so you had reported to whom by whom? are they real? are you sure of that? >> yeah. well, and these reported to the county clerks and the cases that couldn't be, you know, were not credible were not included. credible reports of voter fraud to the county clerks or to the secretary of state's office my predeces